Precise control… of what?

This is something that has been in the back of my mind for quite a while. When you step on the gas pedal, what exactly are you expecting to happen?

It’s one of those questions that is so simple, there has to be a trick in it. And in fact, there is.

If you think your car’s pedal controls speed, think again. It’s called an “accelerator”, but it’s wrong. It was made to control the acceleration of the vehicle (change of speed per time unit), but it doesn’t really do that. Why? Because that’s difficult to do with a combustion engine.

What it actually does is control power. And power is the rate of delivery of raw energy (fresh combustible mixture) to the engine (and only after that, to the wheels). And that has a very complicated relationship with speed, and in a real car it’s definitely not a linear one, no matter how smart the engine controller unit is.

To keep things simple, let’s think about examples.

  1. You’re cruising along the highway at constant speed, so your foot is pressing steady on the gas, about mid way. Now comes a climb, and you’d like to maintain your present speed, so you press on the pedal as much as you have to in order to avoid speed loss. So your gas pedal is controlling torque, in order to maintain speed.
  2. You’re now back on the flat road, and you want to overtake a tourist bus. To make sure you pass safely within the window of opportunity, you slam on the gas for a little bit until you get a nice overtaking speed. Once you are side-by-side with the bus, your foot almost goes back to the middle position (there’s no need for acceleration any more), but not quite. So you used it to increase the speed, but also to increase torque (higher steady speeds demand higher torque because of aerodynamic drag).

In my opinion, we don’t expect anything precise when we step on the gas pedal. We expect something to happen, and that something is hard-linked to the car’s personality (the final systemic result of the engine and transmission, inertia distribution, aerodynamics, etc.) versus the current road conditions, speed, load, and even the weather. So it’s always subjective, never quite deterministic. And we adjust accordingly: our foot instinctively adapts its weight on the pedal so that we can do what we want with the car.

In replacing the engine-linked accelerator with another one that controls an electric motor, I’m pressed into choosing exactly which variables this analog input should influence, in order to give the car’s driver the same familiar, comfortable, and safe feeling.

Initially I thought “Speed, of course.”, but that was obviously wrong. Then for a long time I settled for “Torque, most probably! It covers all situations.” Now I’m inclined to think “Power!… it is definitely the most realistic copy of today’s cars.”

What do you think?

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7 Comments on “Precise control… of what?”

  1. h0tr0d Says:

    It’s all about power! (of course power=torque*angular velocity)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)#Power

  2. h0tr0d Says:

    a little joke:

    Little motor: “Grandpa, why do you have 4 wires and I only have two?”
    Big motor: “That’s just a phase that’s going through you.”

    :D

  3. Vasco Névoa Says:

    LOL!!! Thanks for bringing in the lighter side. ;)

  4. Mário Costa Says:

    Hi Vasco,

    I have a question on the regenerative breaking …

    In a regular combustion engine, when we are sliding in a sloped road, you typically are wasting fuel, because you keep the motor running to keep the speed constant (and maybe provide some additional security for a fast engine response to some unsuspected event)…

    In an electric car you will be using regenerative breaking with some automated system, to detect you are sliding down? Or that will be just the task for the driver, to break in slopes?

    The thing is, in an electric car, in a slope would be like driving with a neutral gear with a combustion engine car, if you don’t a system to break (which would also regenerate energy… ;) ?

    Sure this is already accounted for in present hybrid models, but I’m still just an ignorant on that … just had some curiosity on this …

    Best Regards

  5. Vasco Névoa Says:

    Mário Costa:
    Very pertinent question, and also linked to the subject of accelerator/brake pedal controls, and that’s why I moved your comment over here. :)

    I don’t know how the actual hybrids do it, I never rode one; However, from the point of view of control systems, I intend to imitate the physics of the traditional transmission. The drivers shouldn’t have to experience anything different, just because the technology changes. ;)

    The “automated system” you describe is the power controller – the electronics that regulate the current flow between batteries and motors.

    To answer your question: the accelerator pedal will inform the control system of how much power the driver wants flowing *into* the motors. If the power flow is actually negative (the power delivered to the motors is less than the power they are generating), then the batteries recharge. Pressing the brake pedal will enhance this effect – it will be viewed by the controller as an “anti-accelerator” – forcing the motors to behave like generators.

    I don’t intend to allow an electrical “neutral gear” in my hybrid, unless the system is powered off (parked). One of the intentions of a hybrid is to harvest as much energy as possible, taking all opportunities to do it.

    In my system, the only way to have the equivalent of a “neutral gear” (zero power flow) will be by keeping the accelerator pressed just enough to keep the speed constant. Actually, if you account for the losses (aerodynamic and rolling), the zero power point will make the vehicle lose speed.

    I hope I answered your question… this is a little longer than it should be. :(

  6. Vasco Névoa Says:

    I’ve been thinking about this lately, and I’ve decided to keep it simple.
    I’m going to design the pedal controls like this:
    - the accelerator gives a positive power input
    - the brake gives a negative power input, and completely overrides the accelerator.
    If you don’t touch the pedals, the car just “glides” along without any energy exchange.
    Simple and effective. :)

  7. h0tr0d Says:

    In the future, “sport mode” meaning when we lift off the car will mildly brake, like lifting off in high revs in an IC engine powered car


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